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THE CHAIRMAN: Yes, I am glad to have you and
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pleased to know I do have you because we have been looking
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for you for some time because we have had a number of ques-
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tions. I didn't dare get into asking Dean Fordham what he
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meant by home rule because one of our earlier questions
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was: What is home rule?
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DEAN FORDHAM: I haven't the slightest idea.
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MR. MELVIN: I am glad to hear an expert say
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that.
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THE CHAIRMAN: It is almost exactly -- one of
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our basic research questions is to have this question of
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real home rule researched.
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DEAN FORDHAM: The documents prepared by the
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Massachusetts people in this connection are pretty useful.
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You might want to get a complete file of stuff they put
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together.
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THE CHAIRMAN: Dr. Loevy, I am excusing you.
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Actually I want to say with respect to our next meeting
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if you will have that third alternative in writing, that
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gives the first one, which is our broad grant, already
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written; it gives us our alternative here; but I would like
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